Episode 44: Kindness, Kith and Kin with Mac Maccartney

 
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Mac Macartney is an author, an activist, and an international speaker. He is the founder of Embercombe in Devon, a centre that seeks to explore and promote the profound regeneration of land, society, and people.

Over a period of twenty years Mac was mentored by a group of indigenous elders. During this training and ever since, he has attempted to bring two worlds together – an ancient world-view that emphasises relationship, interdependence, and reverence for life with the significant challenges and opportunities of the twenty-first century.

Mac is the author of a recently published new book entitled The Children’s Fire, heart song of a people. He has delivered four compelling TEDx talks.

In this episode, we talked about:

  • Embercombe is a 50 acre valley on the foothills outside Dartmoor Park in Devon, UK. It has 20 acres of woods and a lake. The valley is rewilding from the field system. Embercombe is a centre to ‘touch hearts, stimulate minds and inspire committed action for a truly sustainable world and in relationship with nature’’

  • Mac had a leadership development consultancy and one of his clients offered him a piece of work that was likely to make a lot of money in 1996. The company was later sold to Warren Buffett for an undisclosed sum.He was offered money to bring his dream to life in 1999

  • When speaking to audiences, Mac tries to give people a felt experience of what he talks about

  • Heart-based leadership and serving higher and deeper purposes

  • Building and re-building community

  • Bringing spiritual selves into alignment with our physical, mental and emotional selves

  • “We are so lost as a species, that we are self-harming, and almost entirely ignorant of where we sit in the wider scheme of things”

  • “Being in love with life and knowing that, we too, are loved”

  • “The insane story of the economic model that we follow”

  • One of the methods to try and save the environment has been to monetise it

  • Cities don’t have to feel alienating from communities and nature

  • In the future, cities will be redesigned to enable food-growing, education, engaging older people so they feel they belong and increasing access to wild nature

  • The depth of perspective and insight of the past

  • Reverence and respect for those that went before us and won the freedoms we now enjoy

  • Living with wonderment

  • Nature is all around us

  • Hippos once lived in the River Thames!

  • The bones of sabre-toothed tiger, cave bear and hyena were found in limestone caves near Devon

  • Making sense of history and creating civilisation that draws on the mistakes and successes of the past

  • 3 questions to revisit over and over:

  1. What is it you most profoundly and deeply love?

  2. What are your deepest and most profound gifts?

  3. What are your deepest and most profound responsibilities?

  • Empowering children to help them grow and be resilient and dream

  • The forgotten value of what elders bring

  • Nature Play, Australia

  • Becoming frightened of nature

  • Unless we go into risk and the unknown, the comfort zone shrinks

  • Our failure to be adults is forcing the next generation to be old before their time as they compensate for the state of the planet

  • The qualities of play and curiosity

  • Self-respect as a deep respect and aligned relationship with ourselves

  • Responsibilities for community and society

  • Realising what makes life worth living when we are under threat

  • The garden as a place of prayer and deep connection

  • Tiny shrines such as houseplants and troughs on the window ledge to acknowledge beauty

  • Cooking as alchemy

  • Bringing ourselves to any activity with kindness, generosity, open-heartedness, and attention

  • Kith and Kin, Mac’s year-long mentorship journey

  • The Journey, a residential programme at Embercombe

Resources:

Mac Macartney

Embercombe

Twitter

Mac’s books:

The Children’s Fire: Heart Song of a People

Finding Earth, Finding Soul: The Invisible Path to Authentic Leadership

Kith and Kin

TED talk

A Line In the Sand

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